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My Solution! Re: SONY Mavica C:13:01 ERROR (for MVC-CDxxx

MC-Escher Posted Jun 11, 2004, in response to:anonymous

Hi all! my Mavica MVC-CD1000 same error that everyone else had. It came on somewhat suddenly (after a ski trip) where the CD could no longer be accessed, and was kind of weird becuase if I were to boot while holding it at different angles when starting up, sometimes it worked for a little while, and sometimes it didn't. Eventually it stopped working all together. I hit on the idea that I'd just take it apart and put it back together. (maybe I'd find a snowman with his hat blown off, or something else obviously wrong.) I'd seen many references to CDR alignment problems causing it not to read the disk, so I disassembled from the middle of the camera all the way to the back, thinking maybe something was loose or bent. when I got to the CDR module, I was kind of dismayed because everything looked in order and not damaged. Before putting it back together without doing anything, I hit the message boards and the critical message caught my eye (thanks piclucia!) Stating that a Canadian shop had told him his gears were chewed up. I went back to the CDR module itself and started to disassemble the housing where the gears existed. Low and behold once I got it open, I found there was a sort of mini worm gear. which was linked to the laser housing by a tiny plastic 2-spur gear on a flexible metal arm. This spur was almost not touching the worm gear anylonger!! So, I bent it a little, here's how: recommended Steps to repeat my repair: (WARNING this is involved, it took me 2.5 hours and there were lots of screws and connectors) 1) get a piece of paper and draw a simple view of your camera, then note all the places where the screws exist. (draw a line out from your picture and then a circle or something) 2) now remove all the screws you can find on the outer housing minus the ones on the front of the lens and the eyepiece (There should be 13), and carefully lay them on the little circles you drew on the paper, so you'll know where they go later. 3) Gently pull the viewfinder module straight up, and detach the 2 ribbon connectors and molex from the main camera body. (I'd recommend making another drawing where each ribbon goes in relation to the body of the camera because there are lots of them you'll eventually have to remove.) Place the viewfinder module aside 4) Gently remove the ribbon cables and molex that are connecting the lens assembly to the main body (One of them will be attached with a little foam pad with adhesive, it's ok to pull this off for now) 3) Pull the main body backward and set the lens assembly aside. 4) Now, looking at the inside of hte main body, remove the two brass screws holding the top two circuit boards to the bottom one, as well as any ribbon cables and connectors that attach the top boards to anything below (I think there's 4 ribbon cables and one molex), and slide the top two circuit boards down away fro the notch/tongue at the top. Set the top two circuitboards aside. 5) Remove the 3 black screws on the top (two are for the hinge in the door), one black screw on the top left of the metal bracket (kind of recessed), and one black screw near the bottom right. If you did everything correctly, the whole metal bracket with attached CDR should come away from the back door assembly. Set the back door assembly aside. 6) now flip the bracket over and you'll see the CDR and laser assembly (a black plastic thing) which is attached by 3 plastic connectors and rubber grommets) Before continuing, flip it back over and remove the largest ribbon cable located under the sticker about replacing the fuse. (I didn't detach the smaller one) 7) on the CDR side, Gently pull the tabs on each plastic foot away from the center and it should lift off the metal bracket. (I left the 3rd one with the ground tab on it, but I did remove the screw that secured the ground tab.) Then flip the CDR over. 8) Near the bottom you should see an area where a small white gear is exposed, this is attached by 3 screws, remove them and the gear housing lid. 9) Once the gear train is exposed it should be a simple matter to see the worm gear (metal and long) and the little spur gear on the metal tab. 10) Gently bend the metal arm a little so the spur gear makes better contact with the worm gear. 11) Carefully reassemble everything 12) You're Done! I hope that fixed your problem! If anyone finds this helpful, just send me a note, so I know I saved someone $200+ in repair fees =) Escher

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    Comment 1, Last comment by Mary Hobbs Jan 02, 2008

    ed note: same as parent, but It wasn't readable as a huge block of text. Hi all! my Mavica MVC-CD1000 same error that everyone else had. It came on somewhat suddenly where the CD could no longer be accessed. If I were to boot while holding it at different angles when starting up, sometimes it worked for a little while, and sometimes it didn't. Eventually, it stopped working all together. I hit on the idea that I'd just take it apart and put it back together (maybe I'd find a snowman with his hat blown off, or something else obviously wrong.) I'd seen many references to CDR alignment problems causing it not to read the disk, so I disassembled from the middle of the camera all the way to the back, thinking maybe something was loose or bent. When I got to the CDR module, I was kind of dismayed, because everything looked in order and not damaged. Before putting it back together without fixing anything, I hit the message boards and the critical message caught my eye (thanks piclucia!) Stating that a Canadian shop had told him/her that the gears were chewed up. I went back to the CDR module itself and started to disassemble the housing where the gears existed. Low and behold once I got it open, I found there was a sort of mini worm gear. which was linked to the laser housing by a tiny plastic 2-spur gear on a flexible metal arm. This spur was almost not touching the worm gear any longer! So, I bent it a little, here's how: Recommended Steps to repeat my repair: (WARNING this is involved, it took me 2.5 hours and there were lots of screws and connectors) 1) get a piece of paper and draw a simple view of your camera, then note all the places where the screws exist. (draw a line out from your picture and then a circle or something) 2) now remove all the screws you can find on the outer housing minus the ones on the front of the lens and the eyepiece (There should be 13), and carefully lay them on the little circles you drew on the paper, so you'll know where they go later. 3) Gently pull the viewfinder module straight up, and detach the 2 ribbon connectors and molex from the main camera body. (I'd recommend making another drawing where each ribbon goes in relation to the body of the camera because there are lots of them you'll eventually have to remove.) Place the viewfinder module aside. 4) Gently remove the ribbon cables and molex that are connecting the lens assembly to the main body (One of them will be attached with a little foam pad with adhesive, it's ok to pull this off for now) 5) Pull the main body backward and set the lens assembly aside. 6) Now, looking at the inside of hte main body, remove the two brass screws holding the top two circuit boards to the bottom one, as well as any ribbon cables and connectors that attach the top boards to anything below (I think there's 4 ribbon cables and one molex), and slide the top two circuit boards down away fro the notch/tongue at the top. Set the top two circuitboards aside. 7) Remove the 3 black screws on the top (two are for the hinge in the door), one black screw on the top left of the metal bracket (kind of recessed), and one black screw near the bottom right. If you did everything correctly, the whole metal bracket with attached CDR should come away from the back door assembly. Set the back door assembly aside. 8) now flip the bracket over and you'll see the CDR and laser assembly (a black plastic thing) which is attached by 3 plastic connectors and rubber grommets) Before continuing, flip it back over and remove the largest ribbon cable located under the sticker about replacing the fuse. (I didn't detach the smaller one) 9) on the CDR side, Gently pull the tabs on each plastic foot away from the center and it should lift off the metal bracket. (I left the 3rd one with the ground tab on it, but I did remove the screw that secured the ground tab.) Then flip the CDR over. 10) Near the bottom you should see an area where a small white gear is exposed, this is attached by 3 screws, remove them and the gear housing lid. 11) Once the gear train is exposed it should be a simple matter to see the worm gear (metal and long) and the little spur gear on the metal tab. 12) Gently bend the metal arm a little so the spur gear makes better contact with the worm gear. 13) Carefully reassemble everything. 14) You're Done! I hope that fixed your problem! If anyone finds this helpful, just send me a note, so I know I saved someone $200+ in repair fees =) Escher

    Comments 4, Last comment by brian Jan 29, 2007

    MC Escher; The email address on your posting no longer works, so Thank you so much for the instructions for fixing the camera. It's a shame you have to completely disembowel it to get at this little piece of bad engineering. I should have noted precisely where it was so next time I could just drill a hole in the plastic and go in with a bent paper clip... We send things like this to Mars and wonder why they don't always work. Now that I feel like a veteran neurosurgeon, I would like to contribute some comments. One would have had trouble prying your instructions from my cold dead hands when I was doing this, so important were they. a) You probably noticed that you numbered the steps 1,2,3,4,3,4,5 ... b) in the first step 3, I made the mistake of disconnecting the widest ribbon connector on the camera end, not the viewfinder end. Pull this connector directly up and it will come out of its socket. I futzed around, not knowing exactly how to pull them out, and when I finally did one the right way, it was the wrong end. This made it awkward and nearly impossible on the last step of reassembly. c) Getting the brackets in the back door assembly in the right configuration was touchy, and there may be two of those four screws that would be best left in position, perhaps the two shorter ones. (If it's short, put it back in, and don't remove it unless you have to) d) The connector for the ribbon cable mentioned in step 6 has two tiny plastic "keys" on either end which need to be pulled out. That releases it completely. e) In step 7, the tabs for the rubber grommets need to be pulled away from their centers, not "the center". I fretted while trying to pull them away from the center of the camera. f) The gear housing lid in step 8 is held on by 4 screws. g) Their might be a reason to lubricate the rods the laser assembly moves on while it's apart. Upon reassembly, the original problem (buzzing sounds and disk access) was fixed, however I was horrified to find it did not work right at first. It would not focus, and the viewfinder screen remained black, although the camera would record a blurry image. Then it gave an E:61:10 error. I removed the viewfinder assembly again and pushed at the connectors some more. It worked !!! Economics of the experience: a) It took me about three hours, but it would have taken substantial time to find a box, pack the camera, take it to the post office and do the paperwork. Not to mention the $200+ b) We know with confidence that the problem was not caused by using disks other than the official "mavica" disks, like I had worried. but c) There is the possibility of the little spring bracket bending out again with time, and so I will keep your instructions and the notes I made on them. If I knew the service center would REPLACE the defective part, it would almost be worth it to mail it out. The price of finding out would be for someone to take it apart, mark the little bracket, send it out, and then take it apart again after it came back. No thanks! Again, thank you for this contribution. May many people find it.

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    OH MY GOD!!!!!!! I have been staring at my camera on the shelf for two almost three years.. i bought it when it firsat hit the market and got a few good months out of it and then Whammmo it stopped working... I found a guy who would fix it for 300$ but he wouldn't tell me what was wrong with it.. only that he knew what it was and could fix it. He said he used to work for sony and it was a special part that he could get from people who still worked there.... jackass. Anyway... I got curious today and decided to do a little hunting... and I found your post... THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU. It was relatively easy... and again I too reccommend diagrams.... simple ones.. especially with the screws. This fix works and again I thank you.... ---Snincerely, Ben Goodwin

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    how do I remove the ribbon and molex? I don't want to mess the camera up.

    Comment 1, Last comment by Paula Oct 10, 2004

    HELP!! Escher, Thank you. You're a God send! But I need just a little more help. I am having one little problem. Okay. . . I removed all the screws (no problems, great instructions)Now I'm afraid to remove the ribbon. It doesn't appear to be proper place to pull or snap out. I have wire and ribbon in the finder. I'm desperate. I spent way too much much money for this camera to tear it up now. I was pulling my hair out. Sony wanted to charge $198 plus tx to fix (no, to attempt to repair, no promises. If, if, if. . .) what appears to be a common problem with this CD1000. I'm a little angry about that. I have a Pentax 35mm that I purchased for 1/2 of what I paid for this and I've had it for 10 years and it still works like a dream and the picture are great. I love this Sony but I've had it for 2 years and now it won't even take pictures. Please give my a little assistance.

    Comment 1, Last comment by Paula Oct 10, 2004

    Great help man it took me about 2 hours the take down time was about 45 mins then the reassemble was a breeze until i diiscovered that 1) i forgot a screw 2) i didn't install one of the ribbons properly on the card. disassemble time ! But anyway it alwasys goes faster the second time .... thanks alot total time about 1 hour 45min

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